In this week’s episode of Inner Work, MaryAnn sits down for part 2 of a conversation with Emily McAnelly, VP of Strategic Growth at Collective Growth. They have a thoughtful conversation on leadership, purpose, and the beliefs that often shape how we define success.
Many high performers spend years questioning whether the work that feels most natural to them could truly be meaningful. There is often a quiet belief that if something feels intuitive or fulfilling, it must somehow carry less value than work that feels difficult or hard-earned.
This conversation explores this tension and what begins to shift when leadership becomes less about proving yourself and more about living with intention.
MaryAnn and Emily both reflect on the internal narratives that can keep people from fully stepping into the work they are most aligned with. They discuss the pursuit of freedom over achievement alone, the responsibility that often comes with growth, and the importance of building a life rooted in clarity, purpose, and fulfillment.
The result is an honest and grounded conversation about trust: trusting your strengths, your instincts, and the possibility that meaningful work does not always have to come through struggle.
There is also a five-month-old chocolate lab named Gumbo who makes several memorable appearances throughout the episode that you won’t want to miss!
Watch the full conversation below:
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